Modify Forums to use a centralized grading service

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Currently the Forums grading interface is problematic for several reasons.

  • A user must first manually create a gradebook item in the Gradebook before a forum or topic can be associated with the item. There is no option to create the gradebook item via Forums.

  • There is no place in the Forums tool where students can view their grade feedback. (This is particularly true of rubrics, since rubric items attached to forums/topics do not display rubric feedback to the student anywhere at all - not even in the gradebook.)

  • Even after associating a forum/topic with a particular gradebook item, the user can easily send grades to a different gradebook item by choosing a different selection in the drop-down menu. 

  • When using the bulk grading interface to grade forum posts, the associated gradebook item does not show up selected by default. It must be re-selected by the user before entering grades.

In order to streamline the workflow and make grading more consistent across Sakai, we would like to modify Forums so that it uses a centralized grading service. This service would be used by all Sakai tools that generate grades, including the Gradebook. Using this new service would accomplish the following:

  • allow the user to create gradebook items at the same time they create forums/topics

  • allow for feedback on Forum grades to be accessed via the tool interface as well the Gradebook interface

  • standardize grading so that the forum/topic grade entry interface is consistent, and that scores are always sent to the appropriate gradebook item

  • reduce the overall amount of code in the Forum tool itself, since the grading service will be called to handle grading logic

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Wilma Hodges August 22, 2024 at 8:10 PM

This is still an issue in current versions, since it was never completely implemented across tools.

Mark Golbeck August 22, 2024 at 5:00 PM

Since it's been over two years without any further information provided, we're closing this Jira issue for now. If more details become available in the future, we can reopen it. Thank you.

Tiffany Stull February 13, 2019 at 1:48 PM

As I'm not a developer, I'm not entirely sure. It's just my understanding from talking to developers that unlike Assignments and Tests & Quizzes, Forums doesn't have any internal grading logic yet - it just leans on Gradebook to do the work. It's also my understanding that this is the same reason why students don't have access to their feedback on forum posts inside of Forums - the feedback is actually being entered in Gradebook.

Chris Lorch February 13, 2019 at 1:37 PM

can these two in current state be replaced with "There is no true association of grade items with forums or topics - all grading occurs in the Gradebook tool"?

  • Even after associating a forum/topic with a particular gradebook item, the user can easily send grades to a different gradebook item by choosing a different selection in the drop-down menu.

  • When using the bulk grading interface to grade forum posts, the associated gradebook item does not show up selected by default. It must be re-selected by the user before entering grades.

What's a better way to phrase the current state?

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Created August 10, 2018 at 11:35 AM
Updated August 23, 2024 at 3:06 PM
Resolved August 22, 2024 at 5:00 PM

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