Lila Notes

mjnsakai: got a minute?
Mara Hancock: Yes
Mara Hancock: Did you hear about Yale?
mjnsakai: I met Wilson D'sousa of MiT yesterday
mjnsakai: no what?
Mara Hancock: Ah
Mara Hancock: Yale want to put resources on GB
Mara Hancock:
mjnsakai: Cool!
Mara Hancock: They all come at once!!
Mara Hancock: Any way, I suggested they send someone to Friday's meeting
mjnsakai: yes
mjnsakai: is it a phone call?
Mara Hancock: And that Lance was in charge of 2.5 functionality
Mara Hancock: I think so – isn't it?
Mara Hancock: It s the Requirements for GB meeting
mjnsakai: I'm not sure I was invited, ironically.
Mara Hancock: ? It was from the F2F meeting?
mjnsakai: hmm
mjnsakai: I iwll have to check my notes.
Mara Hancock: You were there, taking notes...
Mara Hancock: !
mjnsakai:
mjnsakai: You are assuming that I can even rememver yesterday
Mara Hancock: Without notes...
Mara Hancock: So, Wilson?
mjnsakai: Anyways, Wilson mentioned Thalia, the MIT image tool
mjnsakai: They have done some very interesting work.
mjnsakai: So has CARET, i"m told.
Mara Hancock: Wait, on Friday, why don't I send out an email and we'll use Berkeley's conf.
mjnsakai: ok, cool
mjnsakai: Craig has said that Thalia does provide support for image metdata support (tagging, etc)
Mara Hancock: Stellar has some work. My understanding from CARET is that they are on the Prototyping side of things still for manuscripts. We all did a requirements sharing. Wilson is going some interesting directions
Mara Hancock: Thalia is a terrible interface.
mjnsakai: I spoke with Antranig today. He said that Steve Lay is working on including images in testing.
Mara Hancock: If that could get cleaned up, we would take a look at it
Mara Hancock: ?
Mara Hancock: Images in testing? Steve Lay?
mjnsakai: It involves text overlays.
mjnsakai: Steve Lay was one of the principles behind IMS-QTI
Mara Hancock: Perhaps that is part of the manuscript work?
Mara Hancock: ah
mjnsakai: Maybe
mjnsakai: Steve recently moved to CARET.
mjnsakai: Great guy, very smart.
Mara Hancock: I see. CARET is getting some great folks
mjnsakai: That's for sure.
mjnsakai: I am concerned, though, about visibilityinto what they are doing.
mjnsakai: Antranig mentioned Ian boston doing some service oriented achitecture work for Sakai.
mjnsakai: I heard NOTHING about it.
Mara Hancock: Last I spoke to Wilson, he wasn't ready to make any commitments regarding timing, etc...
mjnsakai: Well, he said he would make the code available to me.
Mara Hancock: I asked you to work on Gallery because we didn't have resources for Images in a BIG way, and I wanted to make some head way.
mjnsakai: Here is my suggestion.
Mara Hancock: Great
mjnsakai: Forget the Thalia UI.
mjnsakai: I can have a look at the underlying code.
Mara Hancock: Its forgotten
mjnsakai: and see if we can extracted a merged image service.
mjnsakai: that way both tools can benefit from a shared underlying service.
mjnsakai: I have already done this in Gallery Tool, but it has very limited functionality.
Mara Hancock: Would this also serve for Gallery to a) talk to other tools, and b) a separate repository?
mjnsakai: It could.
mjnsakai: I don't know till I see / review the code.
mjnsakai: It would help to have UCB
mjnsakai: s requirements spelled out.
mjnsakai: Daphne said somethign exists.
Mara Hancock: Yep. I think our images pages are public.
Mara Hancock: http://confluence.media.berkeley.edu/confluence/display/BSPI/Home
mjnsakai: great, I will have a look
mjnsakai: I may move them over to the REQ-WG site, too.
Mara Hancock: Take a look, it can be somewhat confusing but I can also arrange for Adam who was managing the project give you a call for a walk through
mjnsakai: ok
mjnsakai: I am almost done with the phase 1 work on Gallery Tool.
Mara Hancock: Ah. You should take a look at the site we were working on with Wilson's team. Let me find the URL.
Mara Hancock: Great
mjnsakai: Just gotta get sort to work, then check itin.
Mara Hancock: Not sure if you ever saw my Lila proposal. It is linked at the top of the site I sent you.
mjnsakai: I don't recall it.
Mara Hancock: I might be able to get UC Davis to pitch in for the next phase.
mjnsakai: So you view Lila as an image repository?
mjnsakai: or a federaton service?
Mara Hancock: Good question
Mara Hancock: Actually more as a set of services that both talk to an image repository for faculty to manage personal collections, and also to a set of federated searches (could use sakaibrary model) to bring in images from a variety of place and "curate" and share them within various contexts: class, scholarly collaboration, departmental colleagues, etc...
mjnsakai: Lila's modular architectural design will allow it to be embedded within a variety of different delivery platforms such as uPortal, Sakai, or Moodle
mjnsakai: I know how to do this.
Mara Hancock:
mjnsakai: If you view this as a service that can be isolated and integrated with other services (like AuthZ), it can be connected locally via an API, or remotely via web servies.
Mara Hancock: Are you aware of the interoperability planning proposal being put forth by UCLA and Stanford.
mjnsakai: No (I veel so out fo the loop)
Mara Hancock: Mark, I have to run to a meeting.
mjnsakai: ok. Can we continue via email?
Mara Hancock: Yes
mjnsakai: I am interested in working on this.