Participants: Peter, Steve Smail, Nathan, Mathieu, Anthony, Clay, Noah, Jim, Josh, Claude

Agenda

Mathieu: I will take the minutes, but I would need other people to revise. I'm not technical enough to follow everything.

"Entifying" Sakai: Next steps for the list of tools needing RESTful access

• Anthony will review his developer how-to on entification
  http://docs.google.com/View?docid=d7s4gpm_16c6hz57ck&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
  • Article targeted to developers
  • Anthony needs your feedback. Spread the word to your developers.
  • Sakai 3 artifact will be released in the next couple of days. Based off Nico's work.
  • Case: How to for the Poll tool.
  • Clay: Is there a ballpark estimate of the effort needed from developers?
  • Will ask Aaron and Zack how much time they have spend.
  • Developing a widget is a different type of work. Less effort needed, more client-side technologies. Needs some adjustment.
  • More access to different type of developers, beyond Java experts. Has to be kept in mind when building your team.
  • We should produce another document for the managerial side.
  • Jim: Old tools will be harder to entitificate than new tools.
  • Josh: Need to get info on the frustrations, train of thoughts, of developers and users of the system.
  • RSF tools lend themselves more easily to the process.
• Volunteers to work on the RESTful side for existing tools
• Volunteers to work on the widget (or other consumer) side

Update from Nathan on authoring UX work

• Daily working session with the UX group. Very informal.
• Started at the higher level ideas, drilled down to sites, and now pages.
• Need for a new vocabulary to describe entities.
  • Vignettes: entity in a page Edit mode.
  • Widget: type of technology.
  • Aggregated view. Example: forum discussion.
    • Vignette view of a Calendar, would also need a more complete calendaring tool.
  • Templates: What should be included?
  • Start from a blank page, or not? Should a vignette be a type of template only?
• Screens available on Confluence.
• Concerns over communicating at this stage. Rough sketches.
• Skype (npearson99) for VoIP + Adobe Connect.
• Connection details will be sent to this group.
• Central control panel versus distributed.
• Developing patterns that might get replicated in other parts of Sakai.

What else?

• Claude ask if REST training could be offered through this community?
  • Webinars
    • Step by step analysis of the entification of the poll tool
  • Documents (like Anthony's)
  • Workshop at the JA-SIG conference (8 hours)
  • July conference: Developer Boot Camp on 3akai
• Claude could explain their approach with GWT at the July conference.
• Jim: UIs need more work.
• Noah: OSP still at the use case level.
• Peter's CD drive is annoying

Original List: http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=41222545