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  • Noah Botimer
  • Max Whitney
  • John Lewis
  • Michael Feldstein
  • Stephen Marquard
  • Eli Cochran
  • Michael Korcuska
  • Nate Angell
  • David Goodrum
  • John Norman

Minutes

Warning

in process of being tidied up

Comments about release proposal:

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  • in provisional criteria there was this notion of stealthing. Are we dropping that distinction?
  • it's Stealthing is a valuable option, but I would focus on the goals and see if they could be achieved otherwise - if it could be a contrib project and applied easily to a main distribution, then that might meet the same need in a better way. But then not everything may be easily packaged in this way. It's mainly : a question of distribution mechanism.
  • Leaving things in contrib has led to an unhelpful confusion over status of contrib projects. And yet if a tool is in a release in an optional way there is a similar level of confusion.
  • Stealthed provisional tools feels like a workaround solution, and not something that should be embedded by default. We should test if we can get rid of it. Should be clear that we hope and plan to get rid of dispense with it when feasible.

Criteria Documentation:

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  • for 2 a narrower set of issues to be canvassed, 3 broader and more complex
  • one of the characteristics we ask projects to demonstrate is how they integrate, how does it affect other tools
  • need to document migration plan (eg from 2 or 3) and we can advise how significant that will be.
  • Keep it simple: needn't try to establish hard criteria on the details, but we can say that there should be a migration plan in some form

Next Steps

  1. Clay will clarify release proposal.
  2. Meetings will be bi-weekly for now, though they may be called off in a given week where there isn't a need. Next meeting will be Wednesday, August 18th.
  3. Clay will work up a draft of a simple incubation documentation form, with input from other PC members and by proactively engaging with the leads of candidate projects.
  4. Clay will organize some pages in Confluence for working on drafts of criteria/characteristics for future stages as well. Nate, Eli and Max are particularly ready to help flesh these out.